Public Notice: Stop Seancing Around The LaVeys

Public Notice:  Stop Seancing Around The LaVey Family Sanctuary and Shrine

Howard Stanton’s family sanctuary and shrine.
His name was Howard Stanton he was author. He had a church with a powerful name. It still exists and his books have sold more after his death than they did in life —over a million copies now. It started a counterculture movement and in reality a “popular culture church“—it really depends on the decade you are talking about—that church became something very different in Los Angeles. Some of the family created a Hekate Sanctuary and Shrine and it’s not appropriate to seance around it.

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In LA the church and it’s name was very real to a lot of people but at it’s heart it’s still a author’s family who started a Church with a very recognizable trademarked name. One could say it’s bigger than L Ron Hubbard’s Church of Scientology. Why? It’s all about “Magic and Witchcraft” and Philosophy. The actual legal worldwide religions trust that family and that church to this very day.

Redlands CA plays a game with a “exclusive club of people” who seance each other’s houses. They also use “seancing” as social extortion at night and sometimes during the day.  They probably started seancing the real devils a long time ago. If you caught some of those christians “devil worshipping” everybody was extremely embarrassed. That’s the really old school christian term for it. Historically this ties into the other kind of “spiritualistic type people who do this kind of thing at night” who have a tendency to be involved with the christian spirituality movement.

I am personally upset with people that “seanced the spirit” or “received the messages” around Zeena [LaVey] Shreck and her brother years ago as well as in the past 5 years or so locally. It was “christian church business, the fake spiritualism kind” that ruined my business life for over 15 years. The people involved included some of my adopted family members and old friends as well as “local spiritualists”. I mostly ignore them except when they are seancing for “messages from the spirit”. In General more and more local churches have “spiritualism” programs or use the words. What’s my business you ask? Publishing of course. What does my family do? They have a publishing business and a churchAnti Trust – Fair Trade laws come to mind here.

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I forget that people do not know this stuff off the top of their head.

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Mediums seance or “call human ghosts or ancestors”
(sometimes it’s fake and they are real people who are alive outside the home or wherever the medium lives or works”

Witches sometimes call “spirits, powers, demons and the devils”
(Gods and Goddesses “usually”)

If you seance around a witch or a circle of witches there is usually a “guardian demon or devil” protecting the The Magic Witches and Wizards. When you “call the ghosts” or seance around The Magic Witches and Wizards you don’t know which “spirit” or god or goddess it is.

Christians do not appreciate it when people seance around them because they don’t want to have “extra demons around, either real people or actual demons” Who knows what the mediums drag in? You have to ask a medium “what spirit” they usually work with first. If you can’t hear it you are fine.

In Religious Reality: If Christian Spiritualists or Witches are too loud when they do it they attract the attention of the spirit (or local demon or whatever it is), if you blaspheme it watch out. (Yes I am talking about real spirits and fake ones also)

You know how upset I am with my own ex-friends and ex-family members who seanced around me? They had a rule that if I ever went back to my original religion that they would not “seance” around me. They always said their magic secret was “I was the man with all the ghosts” so they could not talk to me at night or when they were around me and I could not physically see them. (The part about all the ghosts is not true in reality) I have finally had enough and pretty much don’t care about them anymore because they never stopped séancing. They wake me up on purpose, or try to scare me to “keep him in  a spiritual state” because when he’s awake we get the messages!

The local Christian mediums keep it a secret when they find a real live spirit, then believe it or not some of them have tried to train it or capture it and take it to their church. This causes problems with people that live by a Hekate Goddess Sanctuary and Shrine. They knew it was here for 18 years and they used their contact with a “live spirit” in their Christian ministries for evil purposes.

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Some “old time” tent revivalists would “imitate the spirit of god” when they had a revival. If it was a good revival and people received messages from “God” or “the holy spirit” people would give more money if they were thrilled or “felt a thrill” when they went to those churches and meetings.

One of the problems we had at APC [now ACC] in Arcadia in the years of 1975-1985 is we started up a charismatic church group (or had a interest group) that met at one of the houses next to the church. The church owned the house as an office. Lo and behold we started having people megaphone the building. They were professionals, and went from revival to revival. They always wanted something, usually money. Other times they tried to whisper at people who were praying so they thought they were hearing the holy spirit. We had to call the police at times to get rid of them. Some times they told the police department they were Christians who were “security against the devil worshipers who would try to interrupt the meetings” I am sure you can see how that worked. Their friends would “cast their voices” or try to deliver messages from God to each other or people at the church meeting and if enough people believed in it then the group flourished. Some times one family member would do this (cast their voice or send their messages) to their own family as well as other church members and their own family never knew. Most times they have an accomplice or a friend or two that’s in on it.

Let me repeat this one more time in another way for myself:
You need to be wary of anyone who has claimed a “supernatural gift” when they go to a christian church. They will fake it with their friends for social extortion which can lead to financial gain. Christian mediums are especially hard on living magic and witchcraft people.

It’s sad when you figure it out and often times the crime never goes reported because it really is Social Extortion and is sometimes tied into racism. Which in reality to me seems to me to be just a big ol’ mess of:

Racism = Social Extortion
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Go away from me when you seance please: The old rule was at least a 1/2 a mile away. I don’t respect spiritualism or spiritualists when they do this.

Just to be clear I am not upset with the LaVeys

-gtk

Notes:

From wikipedia:
In the religion of Spiritualism, and the religion of Divine Metaphysics (a federally recognized religious branch out of Spiritualism in the United States), it is generally a part of services to communicate with living personalities in the spirit world. Usually, this is only called “séance” by outsiders; the preferred term for Spiritualists is “receiving messages”. In these sessions, which generally take place in well-lit Spiritualist churches or outdoors at Spiritualist camps (such as Lily Dale in upstate New York or Camp Cassadaga in Florida), an ordained minister or gifted contact medium will relate messages from spirit personalities to those here in the physical form.[4] Generally Spiritualist “message services” or “demonstrations of the continuity of life” are open to the public. Sometimes the medium stands to receive messages and only the sitter is seated;[6] in some churches, the message service is preceded by a “healing service” involving some form of faith healing.[7]

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Addendum please note:
Do not misunderstand me, talking to your ancestors is perfectly fine as is visiting a spot where a loved one died. Many traditions incorporate practices like these all over the world. Christian medium-ship is what I am talking about here because some practitioners are not aware that talking to ghosts leads to a kind of affinity or friendship with the spirits of the dead. Eventually they beckon you toward the other side grasping at you from beyond the grave. They want you to be friends with them and they want you to be with them all the time. This becomes very sad and tragic sometimes.

If you are talking to your loved one and they loved you in life then they will love you in death and not hurt you. You can ask them for protection if you want to. Usually they can not protect you against really evil powers which is why if you talk to a spirit without knowing who or what it is OR using it’s name then it could be a ghost of a murderer or a very evil daimon. You can’t tell without using their names.

For example:
I know some people who travel to talk to the spirit of their mother or father at the sanctuary and I hear them park and talk sometimes. This is fine until they start crying and sometimes I do also because it’s very sad, but it helps them to get over their grief and I am OK with that.

You have to respect them when they do that. I do not respect people that do that to random spirits they sometimes hear in houses and they talk or yell at the house to receive the “christian or other spirit messages”. Christian mediums around here often times use a contact with a ghost in their religious practices but they do it without the ghosts permission. Or the people living in the area.  A spirit usually has a name, not always but usually. Sometimes someone will have talked to it enough to learn it’s name or named it themselves. A random ghost probably does not. You have to ask first.

This is what I was taught as a child and it is an oversimplification always seek wiser council when you are learning. It is also traditional to have your mother or father help explain it to you. [Warning for little magical witches and wizards, sometimes mom and dad might hear things that scare them too and they might have a explanation that sounds funny years later. “They are just trying to protect you” 🙂 ]

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